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Questions about Atmel Studio
Dec 31st, 2013 at 2:24pm
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Not sure if I should start a new discussion, but here are few more questions.
1. As far as the "last project" I was referring to my ancient VC++ 6.0 which has an option to automatically load last project - no click this and click that...
2. I have managed to build a project and load it from Start page, but it really does no load anything. From your explanation how to use "debug" I figured that the Studio integration with Arduion IDE is pretty vague. But it does works, so no problema. 
3. Is there a way to permanently set the Output as a tab?
Kinda annoying because it floats over the main edit window.

So far I am pretty happy with the editor, looking forward to abuse the debugger soon.
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Reply #1 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 2:45pm
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Hi,

No problem glad you are getting somewhere, it is always okay to create a new thread and makes it easier for others to find answers.

I am not sure what to call this thread and not sure if the following will help or make sense  Smiley

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1. As far as the "last project" I was referring to my ancient VC++ 6.0 which has an option to automatically load last project - no click this and click that...

Yes I agree this might be missing from both VS and Atmel Studio however I haven't looked deeply into the options. It is certainly on the radar for Visual Micro to provide a recent list of sketches and also an option to auto open the last sketch. 

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2. I have managed to build a project and load it from Start page, but it really does no load anything. From your explanation how to use "debug" I figured that the Studio integration with Arduion IDE is pretty vague. But it does works, so no problema. 


Yes it works but the docs could be better. I suggest following all of the Visual Studio docs on visualmicro.com. Atmel is Visual Studio 2010 so 99.9% is the same.

http://www.visualmicro.com/post/2012/05/05/Debug-Arduino-Overview.aspx

http://www.visualmicro.com/post/2012/10/24/Modify-Arduino-Variables-During-a-Deb...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFM8_RhIG0U

http://www.visualmicro.com/archive.aspx#Arduino-Debug

Atmel Studio does not really know about Arduino, the Visual Micro plugin overrides many of the standard Atmel functions to ensure an Arduino compatible build system. The same applies to the debugger, Atmel doesn't know anything about the Visual Micro debugger which uses injected code during compliation in a temporary build folder.

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3. Is there a way to permanently set the Output as a tab?
Kinda annoying because it floats over the main edit window.

All tool windows can be prevented from floating by clicking the "pin" in the top right. All tool windows can be moved to different or new tab groups. Dragging a tab has a different effect to dragging a window title. Holding the CTRL key prevents a window from docking.

Visual Micro will automatically switch to "Arduino" mode if it detects an Arduino project is opened so it doesn't matter how or where a solution or project is opened

It would help if you emailed a screen shot of your output window so I can under stand the question.

Visual Studio Pro certainly allows you more flexibility to customize the user interface I am not sure how much of that is available in Atmel Studio.
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2014 at 6:10pm
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Thanks for reply. 
I would like to send you a screen shot, not because you asked but I am having another issue. I tried to inser image but no go here.
I got the bitmap stored so if I can figer out how to insser a file here I'll do it. 

I upload sketch, compile it , but cannot see it in edit tab at all.
The main window title also identifies  correct file.
I powered the XP down and reloaded Studioapp , but still no go. I even tried "project", same story. 
I have a felling I need to download the studio again, but half an hour is too much to keep me from coding, I am on the roll now.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 2014 at 6:42pm
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Hi, no need to re-install. I assume you have the solution explorer open (View>Solution Explorer). In the solution explorer you will see all the project files, double click to open/edit any of them.

Please email screen image to info [at] visualmicro.com and I will attach it to your post.

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Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2014 at 11:58pm
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No I did not open the Solution Explore tab because some times it works.
I still have a problem with crashing XP, the "funny" part is it a total crash as in power failure. I started using Mozilla and it has some problems too, so I really do not know which app is a fault for now. But no other app does crash like that, so it points to Studio, sorry.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 12:43am
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Hi,

Great to hear you found how to open the sources for edit and re-position tool windows. 

One point to note is that the solution/projects remember which sources were open (when saved). This is why you see different behavior sometimes. This gives you the choice to decide which files are automatically opened for each sketch when each solution is opened. 

Shutdown Issue

Sorry to hear the pc shutdown problem continues. It sounds like windows or an app needs updating. 

I have not heard of this in connection with Atmel or Visual Micro before and there are many users of xp.

Questions

Which xp service pack are you using? 

Which version of internet explorer is installed?

Thanks
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Reply #6 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 2:08am
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I got XP SP3 and not using IE.
I do not see anything useful in XP logs.I'll keep at it to get some intelligent data. Even blue screen would be helpful! 
Maybe I check restartr after power failure settings, I have no clue what it is. 

Just run into another samll "problem', I loaded older version of the project / solution and than  loaded a newer one.
No matter what I did it kept compiling the first load. I had to delete it from Solution.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 2:48am
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Hi, 

1)
Visual Micro uses IE in the background at certain times. Example: All of the web page views in the help and information windows can use the windows IE control. So it is best to keep it up to date, you don't have to use it yourself but some other browsers also use the same control in the background.

Having said that I haven't heard of a pc shutting the power off like that before and might possibly be something else.  Maybe related to windows swap file size or memory?

Anything in windows event log?

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Maybe the option Build>Clean Solution will have fixed that problem. The option clears the compiler cache, which should have detected the use of a previous/different version but maybe didn't.

These are good questions, if possible try to create a thread for each question so that other users can find the answer and solution more easily. Thanks  Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 5:24pm
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This is the only error type in the System log

EVENT_BUGCHECK_SAVED

I am currently downloading VS 2010 SP1 to see it it helps.
It only go south when I type in the edit window, but it is pretty consistent.
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 5:55pm
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Hi, a windows crash while typing into the code editor is not a common problem. I can say that Visual Micro does not capture any editor events so is not a part of the problem. 

Sometimes poorly written Visual Studio extensions can cause VS to crash but not windows. I am assuming you havn't installed any VS extensions.

The fact that other apps also crash indicates a windows or hardware problem.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 6:43pm
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No, I do not have any other crashers - only VS 6.
And I did not install anything but the IDE.
But I cannot get the 2010 SP1 to load.
I guess I need to keep coding using Arduino IDE directly, what a pain! 
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Reply #11 - Jan 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm
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Sorry to hear that. I think you know that AS6 is VS 2010 and all of these issues sound like a windows or windows update problem. However if you can't install VS2010 you can ask on the Microsoft connect web site if ever you find the energy Smiley

Best of luck either way, sorry I couldn't be more help.

  
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