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How to program and Uno in Atmel without Arduino?
Mar 23rd, 2016 at 1:48pm
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Hello,

I've been looking for how to identify the Arduino Uno board on Atmel Studio.

I tried a tutorial from
http://www.jayconsystems.com/tutorials/atmerpt1/

Then, I posted a thread on AVR freaks, and one replied that their method is not so good, and I may lock the chip.

So, I want to know how to add any Arduino board to Atmel Studio and so I can program the board?

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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #1 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:25pm
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Install the visual micro extension for atmel studio via our downloads page.. Then you will find "AVRISP MkII" in the programmers list on the Visual Micro menu.

Alternatively install our most up to date version into Visual Studio 2015 Community and again you will find the AVRISP MKII in the Visual Micro Programmers List.

Please see the documentation for more information

Also keep in mind that if you have an arduino board you might not need to use a programmer. Most Arduino boards have a simpler usb/serial connection which is more common to use. Visual micro will upload using the usb without need to select a programmer.
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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #2 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:37pm
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OK

I'm able to see the visual micro with Atmel tabs.
I configured the Arduino Uno settings.
Now, how to upload the code to the Arduino board?


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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #3 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 8:41pm
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All of the ide's usual "start commands" compile and upload. Such as "debug>start without debugging" which is also usually an arrow on the tool bar.

You need to make sure you have ticked "always use programmer for upload" otherwise serial/usb will be expected.

compile and upload document is here 

documentation index is here
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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
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I ticked the "always use programmer for upload"

I chose start without debugging

and got this result
  
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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #5 - Mar 24th, 2016 at 2:40pm
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Yes that is correct because you have created a standard atmel studio gcc project and not an arduino project.

Please find documentation here and please follow first steps
  
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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2016 at 7:15am
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That's what I want!

I want to work with my Arduino board as an AVR project with the standard C code project.

Right now, I don't want to import Arduino libraries to Atmel Studio. That's for future upgrade and improvement.

So, is the link you provided for dealing with Arduino board as AVR or as Arduino project?

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Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:12pm
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If I under stand correctly you don't want to use Visual Micro and Arduino for build and upload? 
You just want to use a native Atmel project and native Atmel Ide tools?

I don't support atmel native but I ask you why the tool bar shows the upload device as "ISP on STK500" instead of AVRISP mkII?

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OK, what I should understand at this point, or I already understand it.

That Arduino bootloader is for Arduino IDE.
If I want to work as native Atmel project, then I have to burn Atmel fuses. Is that right?

Also, I can keep Arduino bootloader for Atmel Arduino projects, correct?

Your question "ISP on STK500" instead of AVRISP mkII?"

I couldn't find Arduino AVRISP mkII.

I actually don't know the properties of both programmers. Would you provide me some information about them?

Which one for which platform Arduino or Atmel, supported boards, like Arduino Uno, Nano, pro micro, mega 2560 or AVR native programmers?

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Re: How to add the Arduino Uno AVRISP mkII to Atmel Studio IDE?
Reply #9 - Mar 25th, 2016 at 2:41pm
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Hi,

1)
For Arduino you can use bootloader or you can use avrisp mkII

2)
For native Atmel cpp you can not use bootloader

The best place for native atmel support is avrfreaks
  
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Re: How to program and Uno in Atmel without Arduino?
Reply #10 - Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:54pm
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Yes, thank you.

1. AVRISP is a firmware or a programmer tool?
2. I know that bootloader is a firmware.
3. I should continue on AVRFREAKS as I have a thread on this topic. So, I hope to find the solution.

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Re: How to program and Uno in Atmel without Arduino?
Reply #11 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 12:28pm
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You can also switch on the verbose option in visual micro then create a test arduino project and upload using the AVRISPmkII programmer on the visual micro menu. 

This will give you the commands for the arduino avrdude system. You can also use the Visual Micro "Atmel Avrisp mkII" programmer which gives you an example of using the atprogram.exe that Atmel studio uses.

I can tell you there is a conflict of usb drivers between the arduino ide installation and the atmel installation. Depending on what you have installed (arduino, jungo) from these two manufacturers it might be that only one of the options works. This is unconnected to Visual Micro but I tell you because it can be confusing.
  
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